1. Love the podcast. Great to see it back up and cuoninnitg! For me, being a part of the population that tries to get out of the 9-5 corporate and get into permaculture its inspiring whenever you interview one of these people living their permaculture dreams. I wholeheartedly agree with cliff, while I live in a small studio apartment I have persuaded my parents to allow me to start working on our old backyard in the suburbs a few times a year. While I have not taken any classes yet, and have read many books, in the end I don’t think much can replace just getting your hands dirty. Great work frank and thank you for the podcast! Have you heard of Derrick Jensen? I think his work concerning the relationship between ecology and civilization would be a great perspective to bring onto the show.

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